Questionable details emerge on the Second Suns recruitment process

[Koba]

Yes, the CBC. I will summarize what I found interesting:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/second-sons-recruiting-process-nda-9.7363206

Not only was the prospective member told to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) that would ban him from revealing confidential information about the group, the recruit said he was also searched for recording devices and asked to say racial slurs as a test.

(a crime punishable by life in prison and probably being recorded)

"They advertise themselves as one thing," said the former CAF member, who CBC News is not naming due to concerns for his personal safety and legal retribution. "And then as soon as I met them … the sheets were pulled down and it was a whole other thing that was disgusting."

He said much of the in-person meeting was about how Jewish people were evil and how Hitler's philosophy was "genius."

I would say the sons are going to have to ask themselves, are they doing optics nationalism or are they doing neetsoc 2.0? I myself am not interested in Neetsoc and suspect most Canadians are not either. But prehaps we can start from a charitable position and presume the claims are overblown or merely an elaborate provocation to smoke out bad actors.

 

[Trudeaus coke dealer]

Say nigger now pledge allegiance to the ghost of Adolf Hitler. Fuck the CBC someone here should try to join just to see what it entails.

 

[ovarieasy]

"Now show us your meme folders."

 

[brutana_dilewski]

If CBC told me the world was round I would probably become a flat earther.

 

[Trudeaus coke dealer]

Wouldn't believe their reporters even if their tounges were notarized. They could tell me the sky is blue and I would have to double check for myself.

 

[FreeJames]

A few things are true at the same time:

1) It's not a smart move to join these guys club. You are better off finding like minded friends who agree that Canada is best as majority European. No strange meet ups or NDAs required. It's hard to imagine what would drive a person to actually go through an application to join these guys.

2) The CBC is obviously peddling a bunch of propaganda which in no way shape or form is accurately reflecting this clubs' beliefs.

3) While not doing anything wrong, the powers that be are gunning for these guys hard. One wrong move or misstep and the force of the corrupted legal system is going to fuck a bunch of the members over. Hope it doesn't happen, but it seems inevitable.

 

[CaptainTrouble]

@Koba Bro, you can't deal with Nationalists in a White country without Hitler and Jews coming up in the topic of conversation. That's because Hitler was the greatest White Nationalist to have ever lived and Jews are the greatest threat to White Nationalism that have ever lived. It comes up in every single group, in every forum, everywhere... because it's still pertinent.

I understand you see this as bad optics and wish everyone would move-on from it but a lot of guys first get motivated to become Nationalists when they start learning the truth about Jews and Hitler. Even still, they tend to learn it along the way, so they want to talk about it. It's something many people will share in common to build trust and commonality. Also, once someone gets jewpilled, it's hard for them to ever stop talking about it because of how relevant it is to on-going things in society and for how prevalent it is. The last major geopolitical event (Judeo-America attacking Iran) was literally all about Jews. It's going to come up no matter what. You can join these things and tell people it's bad optics but people will still want to discuss it among themselves.

As for the saying racist things on camera to get in... I don't think that would actually holdup in court. One of the big things about the illegalities of saying racist things is the display of it in public. Also, the requirement straight-up that they make you do it to get in, really nullifies the ill-intent of it. I think it's a stretch to say that's illegal. I think it's actually a bad idea though. I used to do recruitment for similar groups to this and leftists can easily just say nigger to get in. I'd just ask their opinion on race and racism instead. Leave it open for them to fuck up. Leftists trying to go undercover might be easier to discern because they might go a little too radical racist and those are the people you actually don't want in your group either way.

 

[Koba]

I'm not going to prejudge motives because this is all secondhand. I get that any group would naturally prioritize getting rid of infiltrators, and also that if you operate in our sphere you have to be able to get tough on Zionism and engage with the legacy of Germany without freaking out. CBC is also a terrible source so it's the rumor mill. The Freemasons have all kinds of amusing society antics to get a real feel for the people they're mixing with, so it's nothing new. I also know that boys will be boys, especially in groups having fun, and usually everyone will have said something off-color when they start out.

But my point is that if I'm a aspirant politician or potential backer, and I hear about this great group the second sons which just hit the news cycle and I immediately am hit with talk like this I'd probably back out. There's a very fine line for where the overton goes in Canada.

So.... for people on the fence who could throw in with growing the Sons I'd just like to see this dilemma get worked out. It's not a dealbreaker, but I have to ask whether they want to outgrow the mistakes of the alt right and get on with actually doing politics