Doerkson condemns masked gathering near Kamloops Residential School

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Doerkson condemns masked gathering near Kamloops Residential School

PENTICTON — A Facebook post Sunday morning showed a group of masked men in black clothing, hats and white face coverings standing on the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc reserve beside Kamloops, some of them holding flags.
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A Facebook post Sunday morning showed a group of masked men in black clothing, hats and white face coverings standing on the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc reserve beside Kamloops, some of them holding flags.

CFJC Today reporter Elora McCormack put the pictures online at 11:06 a.m. PDT and wrote that a logo on several of the outfits appeared to match Second Sons Canada, a men’s group that researchers and a federal safety brief have classed as white nationalist.

The station credited the still to the Facebook account of Cam Gottfriedson.

Conservative Party of BC interim leader Lorne Doerkson condemned the gathering 51 minutes later, having just completed a campaign stop press conference in Surrey.
McCormack put the pictures online at 11:06 a.m. PDT and wrote that a logo on several of the outfits appeared to match Second Sons Canada, a men’s group that researchers and a federal safety brief have classed as "white nationalist."

Second Sons describes itself on its website as a fraternal “men’s nationalist club” built around "camaraderie, fitness" and what it calls a "stolen Canadian birthright."
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Weirdly reminded of the Nazi flag flyer at Chateau Laurier they never identified.
 
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Doerkson condemns masked gathering near Kamloops Residential School

PENTICTON — A Facebook post Sunday morning showed a group of masked men in black clothing, hats and white face coverings standing on the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc reserve beside Kamloops, some of them holding flags.
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View: https://x.com/ldoerkson/status/2104284398325796896?

Weirdly reminded of the Nazi flag flyer at Chateau Laurier they never identified.
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Isn't it Hoax day on Wednesday? This is the tribe that started it all, other Rez's started claiming they found 'anomalies' making it sound like murdered Indian children were buried everywhere. Then all the Church burnings...
 
Orange shirt day Wednesday, provincial holiday in some provinces.

With so many advocating to make ‘Residential School Denialism’ a hate crime and the snap BC election, I smell an op. I thought Second Sons oppose immigration, so taking a shot at feathers instead of dots just before feather holy day?
 
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I disagree, there is no evidence suggesting the Sons are fed beyond hearsay. I've seen it many times where we get into an awful insular spiral in our circles where we look at what the enemy is going to do instead of what we're doing, and then side with the authorities reflectively and tell people not to act. It's bad because we are essentially heckling people for trying to promote our values in public. There is no 5d chess maneuver to successfully launch a group like this, it is always going to be controversial and ruffle feathers.

With groups, my bottom line is very simple: Are they pushing the political ball forward? Are they NOT riddled by stories of people being arrested? Okay, the Sons are still valid. It takes brave men to stand out in public and do anything under the media's eye these days, I do respect that.
 
@Koba: "Are they NOT riddled by stories of people being arrested?"

My impression has always been the opposite, i.e. that the fewer times there are arrests (or doxxing, harassment etc.) aimed at the members of a "far-right" or "white-supremacist" movement the less likely it is that the movement is genuine because it isn't being cracked down upon
 
I've seen so much glowing well poisoning bullshit around this topic, that I'm just going to shill for them despite not even being a member, kek. Fuck you feds

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Lol, nice.
 
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@DripDrop Indian communities are trying to gain ownership of Canada simply by bullying people who choose to oppose them into denying them public spaces. The prog mayor of one of the local communities regionally would not even allow covid critics to rent a public space for a speaking tour - "they showed resentment for Natives". How the fuck do indians control a city hall when they are a superminority of the population? How are they allowed to claim ownership over canada when land claims arguments were first rejected in court half a century ago? Did you know Indian communities did not even have European concepts of the sanctity of land ownership by title at all, they simply took what they wanted?
 
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It is pathetic how politicians are so retarded when it comes to lack of proof regarding this hoax and never mention burned down Churches. Politicians seem scared to upset the red Indians and really all non White these days. I swear so many retards still believe bodies of murdered kids are all over that Rez in Kamloops.

These people need to work for their free money that is stolen from actual hard working people since most of them want handouts. Want a handout? Pick up garbage along highway, clean up creeks or whatever else needs to be done.

In retrospect we should of rounded these people up when civilised people first arrived to these primitive lands and sent them home to Asia...
 
the whole indigenous land claims myth is a series of politically correct bubbles readily overturned by facts. But these days in public we are so "cAnAdIaN" (whipped to death by shitlibs running the terror apparatus) that you might as well have to say the emperor has no clothes and people would be forced to believe it. It's the biggest sign that Canada culturally is dying. We have people running all over our land and our history with transparent resentments and hatred, and the evil liberal government itself sponsors the tribalism and violence rather than laying down the law and telling these people they cannot steal land no matter how strongly they feel about it. When the state becomes an instrument of conformity and subjugation for rebel minorities rather than a arbiter of justice and sponsor of welfare, it is fucking done. You cannot win in Canada until the native reconquest industry is punctured and the nonsense it spews disappears.
 
There's sure a lot of truth and reconciliation in truth and reconciliation day.

The whole native residential school nonsense was more obviously fake than the holocaust.
 
I mean on the Holocaust at least you had bones and bodies. I mean when it comes to the Holocaust you can deny the numbers but I'm pretty sure it happened. The thing is though the Nazis were killing a lot more just Jews even though that's what people pretend it was only Jews.

The funny thing is we say all this killing a murder that apparently happened was fake. They see her denying the schools. It's like no asshole schools did exist what your claiming happened at them is what people is denying.
 
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@CaptainTrouble well, the funny thing is the schools weren't so long ago that there's not literally video and pictures from the damn things you see. Tons of kids smiling. Did bad things happen at some of the schools. Absolutely but that's because of the people who work there. It's just like anything. They treated orphans in the UK and other places just as fucking bad.

Also, the schools are literally a mix of white kids in Aboriginal kids so the abuse went around.

Damn white man. Trying to make a bunch nomads civilized.
 
This whole holo-debate is peripheral revisionism that does not even overturn the core message. Even the most hardcore revisionists will eventually admit that organized killings did happen, they simply argue about the scale and motives. So what is the point? That it wasn't everyone? Okay, that hardly overturns the point that it was an attrocity

Of course you can open any book of eyewitness testimoney and see accounts of SS actions to kill by shooting in mass graves, which are attested to by Germans themselves, but from my experience such debates are completely fruitless since most of these types live in a fantasy world.
 
@Koba It wasn't an atrocity though. That's the whole point. Jews ARE NOT victims. The greatest atrocity in WWII is what was committed against the German people. Why is this important? It's because the fantasy of the holohoax was created by jews to give themselves special status and to humiliate and embarrass White people so they could turn White people against themselves and here we are. The same bullshit they pull with colonialism and natives or slavery and blacks. It's all fantasy designed to make White people hate themselves and that's why it's important to counter with the truth. When White people embrace their heritage and believe themselves righteous in the actions their ancestors took, they can shake this hold the jews have on them through the fantasy of the holohoax. The holohoax is designed to prevent White people from feeling proud of who they are. It's psychological warfare and you're losing, badly (given your comments). Don't let them beat you with their fantasy. Anyone who thinks the Germans were in the wrong is a pathetic human. I don't mean that as an insult. It's literally the whole point of the holohoax; it's to help make White people feel pathetic and when that fails they're use colonialism or slavery or residential schools in their psychological warfare against White people. The USSR and the Allies committed far more atrocities than the Germans did yet we celebrate their victory and make them out to be saviors. That's the difference between winning and losing the war.

I once had a leftist learn about the bombing at Dresden. His response? It's war. Stuff happens. No biggie. And that's exactly how the Germans and their actions should be regarded. No special status for Jews as victims because the Germans who died in Dresden sure didn't get special status.
 
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@CaptainTrouble Any program which leads to mass murder and genocide is morally and ethically wrong. It is perfectly understandable for people looking back to the past to look in awe at the great powers and episodes in history, and perhaps even be selectively inspired by aspects of them. But simply taking the whole parcel unreformed is a fool's errand and forces defenders to rationalize or spindoctor atrocities all day, which is exactly how the non-debate over the caust came to pass. A nondebate, because even the critics themselves admit that such atrocities still happened so truly it is an exercise over nothing. Intentional mass murder is not in line with the spirit of our history and I'll hear nothing of it.
 
@Koba Good thing there was no mass murder and genocide of the jews. That's the hoax. Stop believing in fairy tales that your enemies made up for you. Remember, the Germans put the jews in internment camps, FOR GOOD REASON, since the jews were devastating their society in much the same way they're devastating Western society today but worse since jews were a large part of why Germany lost WWI. THEN, the allies cutoff supply lines to the Germans because they went to war with Germany in an unjust war AFTER the allies refused to take in the jews that Germany tried to deport. What do you think was going to happen? Of course the Germans would allocated resources away from their prisoners and toward their civilians and armed forces. Priorities 101. This would lead to people dying in an internment camp. Also, as Germany began to lose the war, people's moral would be down and people would take out their anger on others. Who would get the brunt of this anger? The jews. Hitler never ordered mass killing of jews but if other men did, he wouldn't have been able to control it. This is the natural course of human nature. Who caused all of this jewish suffering though? Not the Germans because the Germans wanted to deport it. It was actually the allies who caused all the jewish suffering by not accepting jews and for cutting off German supply lines and going to war with Germany in the first place. Therefore, it was actually the Jews themselves (since they had significant influence in the war from the allies' side) who sacrificed their own people in a blood sacrificial ritual to usher in their new Israel. See how perspectives work? Nothing I said is wrong.
 
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@CaptainTrouble I do agree there's an interesting body of evidence about the actual intentions of Germany before the war regarding this population. I remember someone telling me that they actually wanted to send them to Madagascar for instance, or that the leader had been trying to broker a deal to send them to the Zionist project.

There's a certain myopia in the historical presentation as well, where it exclusively turns the German project of this time into a moral parable involving certain ethnic groups selectively whose suffering exclusively is fixated on. This same approach is not done with other figures, for instance people are able to see Ataturk's legacy beyond merely his troubles with Armenia. They are able to put things in perspective and realize that such things have happened before in the human experience, even if they are reprehensible.

But we can also look to eyewitness historical testimony of people who actually participated or were involved in einsatzgruppen killings during the mop up on the eastern front. There were almost certainly mass killings of Jewish communities. Not a theatrical production perhaps, but mass graves near the outskirts of most towns involving many people.

Whether or not the leader himself said to do this directly, I don't really think matters in the big picture. There was a strand of resentment dating back to the night of broken glass which obviously would have led to this, and many Germans participated. Naturally more extreme methods were resorted to in wartime when the restraints on moral behavior had loosened. The reality, which I feel most historians are not willing to accept, is that Hitler's views for the time were not actually that far removed from those of ordinary people.

We can say all this but still admit there were mass killings. And also infer, ethically speaking, that murders like this are still wrong. Because that's what the broader discussion is actually about, trying to erase any dark marks on the German historical record. Germany had some interesting ideas, but trying to take the whole package inevitably leads to trying to hide the dark parts of their history
 
@Koba keep in mind you can find eyewitness to the severity of the COVID crisis and how people were dying in people's arms at the hospital it was such a terrible traumatizing experience and a huge emergency that we can thank the drug companies and politicians for saving us from otherwise millions more than the tend of millions who already died would have died. Yet, that never happened but you can find eyewitness for it.

More Germans died in world war II than jews so who cares about the mass killings? Unless we want to talk about the German genocide orchcastrated by the judeo-allies.

Also, we really level up when we can openly admit that genociding jews is a good thing. The biggest issue with the Germans and Hitler when you really read the history is that they were too nice.
 
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