Honda is CANCELING it's $15B EV plant in Canada.The Honda plant was part of the failed $52B Liberal plan to shower manufacturers with subsidies

[DisobeyTyranny]

Honda is CANCELING it's $15B EV plant in Canada.The Honda plant was part of the failed $52B Liberal plan to shower manufacturers with subsidies to develop the industry here. Honda will make EVs and hybrids it needs in Ohio instead where it can do so on one production line.

Oopsie that elbows gonna hurt bob!!!


Global News
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Honda postpones $15B of electric vehicle investments in Ontario | Globalnews.ca
February 11, 2026 - Honda said the decision would not impact its existing Honda manufacturing facility in Alliston, Ont. 0:35 Joly to speak with Honda after it postponed $15B EV investments in Ontario · Between the battery plant and its parts facilities, along ...


CBC News
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Honda to postpone plans for EV plant in Canada for at least 2 years | CBC News
May 13, 2025 - "When I talked to Honda, they promised us they're going to continue on with that expansion," Ford said of the pause. "So we'll just see how that moves forward. But we're very confident that we'll continue producing Honda vehicles here in Ontario." Ford vows to hold Honda 'accountable' after it postpones $15B Ontario EV project



Financial Post
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Honda reveals delay of $15-billion Canada investment part of shift in EV strategy
May 20, 2025 - Try refreshing your browser, or tap here to see other videos from our team.Play Video ... As a corollary shift in strategy, the

 

[CaptainTrouble]

If a business needs a subsidy, it means the business idea isn't profitable so it shouldn't be engaged in. Instead of subsidies, the government should lower taxes.

 

[TOPDAWG]

Are most subsidies just the government saying they won’t tax you as much, rather than actually giving out money?

 

[CaptainTrouble]

Yes and no. There's also the issue of who pays the tax to fund the subsidy compared to who received the tax break but the biggest issue with subsidies is that they're choosing a specific business and/or specific product/service for the subsidies which is picking winners/losers (corruption and inefficient). Lowering taxes doesn't favor one business over another if it's a straight reduction of taxes where promotes more competition, is more efficient and leads to less corruption.

 

[TOPDAWG]

@CaptainTrouble they've been trying to force the EV market onto the public for 20 years now and it still has failed.

The only company who's ever done is Tesla and they did it on her own other than a tax breaks you get for owning one don't care about that.

 

[Thinker]

There use to be whole bunch of subsidies for Tesla that the USA government gave them which was recently cut under Trump. They why Tesla pivoted to AI and robotics a couple of years ago.

 

[TOPDAWG]

@Thinker was that any money though? I know SpaceX gets a ton of fucking government money.

 

[Thinker]

@TOPDAWG
Pretty much every western government was giving subsidies for the final retail price of electric vehicles. Majority had either cut these subsidies or going to soon. Tesla was given bunch by both States and Federal government as infrastructure development for the charging stations.

 

[TOPDAWG]

@Thinker biden they said they're going to build a bunch of charging stations in like built five.

 

[Thinker]

They built way more then 5. You can find them here:

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/supercharger

 

[TOPDAWG]

@Thinker I don't mean Tesla I mean to biden administration was going to build their own charging stations if I remember correctly. Thank you AI. That's a lot of money for very little.



The number depends on what you count as a “charging station” versus individual “charging ports.”

By mid 2025, the federally funded programs from the Biden administration had produced about 68 charging stations with 384 charging ports across 16 states, according to a U.S. Government Accountability Office report.

That’s from the $7.5 billion EV charging initiative created under the 2021 infrastructure law. Biden’s stated long term goal was 500,000 public chargers by 2030.

A lot of the political argument comes from different people using different definitions:

Some critics said only “7” or “8” stations were built early on in the rollout.

Later reporting showed the number had grown to dozens of stations and hundreds of ports.

The administration argued the program was still in early stages because states had to approve plans, bid projects out, upgrade power infrastructure, and meet federal requirements before construction.


So the most up to date widely reported figure is:

68 stations

384 charging ports

as of April 2025.

 

[DisobeyTyranny]

Honda is CANCELING it's $15B EV plant in Canada.The Honda plant was part of the failed $52B Liberal plan to shower manufacturers with subsidies to develop the industry here. Honda will make EVs and hybrids it needs in Ohio instead where it can do so on one production line.

Oopsie that elbows gonna hurt bob!!!


Global News
globalnews.ca › news › 11177134 › honda-canada-ev-investment-postponed-ontario
Honda postpones $15B of electric vehicle investments in Ontario | Globalnews.ca
February 11, 2026 - Honda said the decision would not impact its existing Honda manufacturing facility in Alliston, Ont. 0:35 Joly to speak with Honda after it postponed $15B EV investments in Ontario · Between the battery plant and its parts facilities, along ...


CBC News
cbc.ca › news › business › honda-canada-ev-announcement-1.7533402
Honda to postpone plans for EV plant in Canada for at least 2 years | CBC News
May 13, 2025 - "When I talked to Honda, they promised us they're going to continue on with that expansion," Ford said of the pause. "So we'll just see how that moves forward. But we're very confident that we'll continue producing Honda vehicles here in Ontario." Ford vows to hold Honda 'accountable' after it postpones $15B Ontario EV project



Financial Post
financialpost.com › commodities › energy › electric-vehicles › honda-cutting-ev-investment-delaying-canadian-plans
Honda reveals delay of $15-billion Canada investment part of shift in EV strategy
May 20, 2025 - Try refreshing your browser, or tap here to see other videos from our team.Play Video ... As a corollary shift in strategy, the

DisobeyTyrannyRemember when Stellantis received $10 billion in subsidies from the Liberals and then moved their plant out of Onterrible and into the USA and got to keep all the subsidies because MP Joly never actually got a lawyer to read over the contract? That elbow has got to hurt bob!

 

[Hirudinea]

Got real business whizzes in the government, eh?

 

[TOPDAWG]

Man, if only they had read this forum when someone said that when the RV mandate died in the U.S., it would die here too. The market just isn’t big enough.

 

[the_pamplemoose]

ElBoWs Up!

 

[TOPDAWG]

your ass without lube.

 

[ButteryBastard]

the whole industry is collapsing country wide and the people who took the government money are probably laughing on the beach right now.

Linamar’s new and unused Welland, Ont. factory already up for sale

Less than two years after Linamar said it was opening a new, state-of-the-art giga casting factory in Welland, Ont., the property has been put up for sale.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Chobes]

Ouch. This was supposed to be a ton of jobs for a town without much going on.

 

[DisobeyTyranny]

carnage is going to get 1% of this any minute now if you hold your e-bows up
View: https://x.com/APTL2036/status/2051348929841627492

 

[DisobeyTyranny]

With master economist at the helm Canada’s stock market was just overtaken by South Korea’s now bumping Canada to 8th place. The hits just keep on coming.

 

[ayn_rands_ghost]

Probably most or all are possibly liberal party insiders or friends

 

[BeerAndOil]

How does one get an EV subsidy? It seems like they hand them out to who ever announces a plant, then never asks for the money back when nothing happens. It seems like a free money no brainer to me.

 

[TOPDAWG]

Go to Costco buy a couple packs of batteries and say you're a battery distribution center you might get a couple Grand from the government. Make sure they're rechargeable batteries or you can order them from Amazon.

 

[Chobes]

Once the subsidy is announced, we rarely get any updates. The two giant battery plants we're subsidizing in Ontario has one posting major losses and the other Volkswagen battery plant doesn't open until 2027.

 

[TOPDAWG]

They will do just enough so they do not have to pay anything back and do not break the contract, if they even signed one with the government. What happened to that vaccine plant they were going to build in Quebec? Nothing, that is what happened.

 

[Hirudinea]

Honda is CANCELING it's $15B EV plant in Canada.The Honda plant was part of the failed $52B Liberal plan to shower manufacturers with subsidies to develop the industry here. Honda will make EVs and hybrids it needs in Ohio instead where it can do so on one production line.

Oopsie that elbows gonna hurt bob!!!


Global News
globalnews.ca › news › 11177134 › honda-canada-ev-investment-postponed-ontario
Honda postpones $15B of electric vehicle investments in Ontario | Globalnews.ca
February 11, 2026 - Honda said the decision would not impact its existing Honda manufacturing facility in Alliston, Ont. 0:35 Joly to speak with Honda after it postponed $15B EV investments in Ontario · Between the battery plant and its parts facilities, along ...


CBC News
cbc.ca › news › business › honda-canada-ev-announcement-1.7533402
Honda to postpone plans for EV plant in Canada for at least 2 years | CBC News
May 13, 2025 - "When I talked to Honda, they promised us they're going to continue on with that expansion," Ford said of the pause. "So we'll just see how that moves forward. But we're very confident that we'll continue producing Honda vehicles here in Ontario." Ford vows to hold Honda 'accountable' after it postpones $15B Ontario EV project



Financial Post
financialpost.com › commodities › energy › electric-vehicles › honda-cutting-ev-investment-delaying-canadian-plans
Honda reveals delay of $15-billion Canada investment part of shift in EV strategy
May 20, 2025 - Try refreshing your browser, or tap here to see other videos from our team.Play Video ... As a corollary shift in strategy, the

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