Hot News Smith confirms that if petition reaches req. number of signatures, it will be on the Oct. ballot.

A non-binding referendum on Albertan independence would be the wisest course of action: if the majority of Albertans voted "yes" then it would send a clear signal to Ottawa to start treating the province much better, but being non-binding the feds wouldn't be able to claim any justification to send in the tanks to crush rebellion or whatever. Such a result would also establish the precedent for a future binding referendum if the province's situation within Canada didn't improve
 
USA below us and supporting Alberta seperation an u think Carney can use the dildo throwers to keep us from separating

Hilarious but maybe u have a point sort of. Nothing is gonna stop what is coming
 
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Unilaterally Alberta can't even declare independence. It's all up to the feds. Was the case with the Quebec referendum too.
 
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I am not all up on the legalities but with enough will there is away. I wonder what would happen if the USA simply said we support Alberta independence and if they need our help to break away all they have to do is ask. Dildo throwers can then decide if us staying is worth dying for
 
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Dude, even if Ottawa allows a referendum, it will take a decade until they hold it. If this current petition is successful and the non-binding one on the ballot in October is successful too, then the provincial government has to start negotiations with the feds about a binding referendum. It took Quebec more than a decade to complete these negotiations. And then the leave voters not only have to get a majority. They need more than that. Because Ottawa is deciding what a "clear expression to leave the Confederation" means and not Alberta. If the leave campaign wins like 52 to 48 that won't be enough. It's all laid out in the Clarity Act.
 
@RightOfSask: Again, you're assuming that Albertans can't just say "fuck Ottawa" and try to leave anyway. Given the current apathetic state of most Canadians, as well as the preponderance of immigrants and libshits within AB itself, I'd say that's not a likely prospect now. But if a privately-held referendum were to turn up a majority desire to leave Canada, even at a 55-45 split, it would show that our supposedly benevolent federation of provinces is a complete sham and that the whole decaying sham is just being held together by force -- which in turn could inspire the rise of local insurgency movements
 
@RightOfSask: "In Canada no one has this force."

The federal and provincial governments and their law-enforcing agencies currently have this force. That doesn't mean that it will be their monopoly forever if enough people become discontented and agitated enough to take up arms in their own self-interest. All Ottawa has to do to forestall this is to reach a separate understanding with Alberta as it has already done with Quebec
 
@RightOfSask: "I'm in favour of holding a referendum. I'm not in favour or separation

You don't have to be in favour of separation, you just have to respect the democratic will of Albertans to separate. And frankly, if I were you I'd be jumping on the Saskatchewan secession bandwagon as well
 
With the Independence vote and the immigrant one only old stock Albertans should be able to vote. It is a conflict in this case for immigrants and their offspring to vote in these ballots. Regarding the feathers many do not consider themselves Canadians anyways but independent so called 'nations'...
 
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